...Okay I feel like you and I have very different experiences of the same person across the course of his life?

[Which might not be the conclusion she would have come to before, had she not been talking to Ylfa about certain things. But even then, she does know some pieces of this story, enough to know it's not necessarily the man Lucien still wants to be.]

He had been puppeted, while he was dead. And then the Lucien that I met on the Eudora had been revived, and was mostly himself again. Or trying to find out what that was.

...A "flesh monstrosity?"